Apr 25
ASPECTS of TRANSFORMATION and SIN
Once in a while, as I see some of your comments that are well thought through and on topic I will comment or even re-post them and add my comments. This is one such post.
INTELLECTUALIZING SIN
Our trying to intellectualize or systemize sin is difficult because of the fallen condition of the mind of man. However, I believe this is why the Apostle Paul exhorted us to be “renewed in the Spirit of our mind.” It is only through internal spiritual transformation by the Holy Spirit that we can dissipate the fog of our own agenda. It is also why Jesus told us to judge no one after the flesh, but after the spirit. We can also look at ourselves in this same light – asking the Holy Spirit to reveal those things we need to let go of or be transformed in. However, it will take a true spiritual, disciplined effort to do this - thus one of the benefits of practicing the disciplines of Spirit.
SIN AND GOD’S LOVE
Because sin is a destroyer of the life God wants His children to have it has to sadden God’s heart to see us choose a lesser life all the while we think we are choosing the more pleasurable road. As Sam Biggar said, sin “has a devastating effect on his children,” and I (JPJ) might add on His creation. “Further, God hates sin because He loves us so much.”
SIN CONSCIOUSNESS
Sin consciousness is not what should be our focus; because what we focus on we make room for. Thus, if we focus on sin we make room for sin. Transformation is what we should be after. When we are transformed we automatically have a clear view of the choice before us and from which tree the opportunity comes from. ‘Christ-consciousness’ is good, but we really cannot know what Jesus would do when we do not truly “know” Him. On the wonderful side of this thought is the reality that the more time we spend with Him and closer we get to Him, the more conscious we are of Him.
DNA AND SIN
One of my best friends e-mailed this to me. I have been preparing an article on this very topic, sin and DNA. Bill touches on this. It is a difficult topic and requires a lot of thought. There is some new scientific evidence for this line of thinking.
Meanwhile, Bill wrote, “I think sin is more than actions, thoughts and attitudes…there is something cellular about sin and our Adamic sin nature. The sin problem is embedded in our being. Without regeneration (transformation), forgiveness and propitiation [revival] is like a blood transfusion…it only works to cleanse for a while. … I [believe] we need to be cleansed and regenerated/transformed at the cellular/DNA level. It appears that cleansing and regeneration are complete in our salvation from an eternal perspective, but are somehow progressive from a temporal perspective.”
The progress nature of Salvation, not reconciliation to the Father, is the focus of Romans 5:10, we shall be saved by His [Jesus} life. Could it be that the curse of sin going to the third and fourth generation and in some cases down to ten generations is from sin being transmitted to the cellular/DNA levels? I believe there is a strong chance the answer might well be “yes.”
IGNORING YOUR COMMENTS
One last note, I am deeply sorry that some of you feel ignored. I really wish it were possible for me to address every question that is asked and every problem that is sent in, in every posting, but there is neither the space here nor the time. I believe the Lord is taking me in a certain direction, one that He has uniquely equipped me in and I must continue along those lines. I pray each of you have a church family that can and does support you on the various issues that I cannot address. This is one of the hard issues I came to grips with when I made the decision to start this blog. Thank you for your understanding.
Blessings,
John Paul
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Hi again John Paul and other “bloggers”,
I was just discussing this issue of passing on to the 3rd,4th even 10th generation of sin last eve. with my hubby and brother. It seems some sins are “weightier” than others..not sure how true this is but just as what we think say and do have different levels of consequenses, so it seems it would follow that some would be “passed down” furthur into more generations. My hubby has just been diagnosed with premature arteriosclerosis..having blocked arteries at age 46. He has taken very good care physically ..exersizing daily, eating good food (although he does love ice cream and would eat it often!). My point is his family line has suffered with this condition and I have often thought since this recent diagnosis, about the DNA connection with sin. Now that it is so close to home it is in the front of us. We want to stop this propigation with our sons and their sons, ect. I do not think it is just a matter of mentally and emotionally deciding to stop it..somehow we have to ask God to show us the sin that began this and repent..to be transformed as you say in the blog , in all areas of our lives at the DNA level. Then, also, how does authority in prayer come into play with this? I have wondered about the “root” of diseases often..there seems to be such a separation between disease and sin in the thinking of believers..but I wonder how that can be. Thanks for the blog and for adressing this issue. We appreciate all that you do..blessings, Renee
Good morning John Paul:
You Wrote:
Sin consciousness is not what should be our focus; because what we focus on we make room for. Thus, if we focus on sin we make room for sin. Transformation is what we should be after. When we are transformed we automatically have a clear view of the choice before us and from which tree the opportunity comes from. ‘Christ-consciousness’ is good, but we really cannot know what Jesus would do when we do not truly “know” Him. On the wonderful side of this thought is the reality that the more time we spend with Him and closer we get to Him, the more conscious we are of Him.
My response:
Yes, yes, yes, and double yes!
Blessings,
Shirley C.
John Paul J wrote:
IGNORING YOUR COMMENTS
One last note, I am deeply sorry that some of you feel ignored. I really wish it were possible for me to address every question that is asked and every problem that is sent in, in every posting, but there is neither the space here nor the time. I believe the Lord is taking me in a certain direction, one that He has uniquely equipped me in and I must continue along those lines. I pray each of you have a church family that can and does support you on the various issues that I cannot address. This is one of the hard issues I came to grips with when I made the decision to start this blog. Thank you for your understanding.
My response:
We have to remain nameless and faceless these days! The approval of God is so much more sweeter. John Paul thanks for all you do and how you serve God and man….Continued blessings to you and your ministry!
Shirley C.
Wonderful…
I was up last night until 3:30am without being able to sleep. Having read and re-read the post before and having gone through the comments, I thought that it may be time to respond. I waited a little longer and decided to comment in the morning. This morning when I came to comment I noticed that there was a new post. I was astounded to see that it has so much to do with what is going on in my life…This is wonderfull!
I’ve been reading Romans Chapter 4 (Msg) and I would just like to point out some verses that I thought were stunning because they have so much to do with what is being dealt with here…(I recommend reading the whole chapter, prefably in the Message Translation):
…What we read in Scripture is, “Abraham entered into what God was doing for him, and that was the turning point. He trusted God to set him right instead of trying to be right on his own.”…
…if you see that the job is too big for you, that it’s something only God can do, and you trust him to do it—you could never do it for yourself no matter how hard and long you worked—well, that trusting-him-to-do-it is what gets you set right with God, by God…
…Do you think for a minute that this blessing is only pronounced over those of us who keep our religious ways and are circumcised? Or do you think it possible that the blessing could be given to those who never even heard of our ways, who were never brought up in the disciplines of God? We all agree, don’t we, that it was by embracing what God did for him that Abraham was declared fit before God?…
…And it means further that Abraham is father of all people who embrace what God does for them while they are still on the “outs” with God, as yet unidentified as God’s, in an “uncircumcised” condition. It is precisely these people in this condition who are called “set right by God and with God”!…
…This is why the fulfillment of God’s promise depends entirely on trusting God and his way, and then simply embracing him and what he does. God’s promise arrives as pure gift. That’s the only way everyone can be sure to get in on it, those who keep the religious traditions and those who have never heard of them…
Now here comes the conclusion in this portion (that to me is stunning):
…We call Abraham “father” not because he got God’s attention by living like a saint, but because God made something out of Abraham when he was a nobody….
…Abraham was first named “father” and then became a father because he dared to trust God to do what only God could do: raise the dead to life, with a word make something out of nothing. When everything was hopeless, Abraham believed anyway, deciding to live not on the basis of what he saw he couldn’t do but on what God said he would do…
…Abraham didn’t focus on his own impotence and say, “It’s hopeless. This hundred-year-old body could never father a child.” Nor did he survey Sarah’s decades of infertility and give up. He didn’t tiptoe around God’s promise asking cautiously skeptical questions. He plunged into the promise and came up strong, ready for God, sure that God would make good on what he had said. That’s why it is said, “Abraham was declared fit before God by trusting God to set him right.” But it’s not just Abraham; it’s also us! …
Before I go on, I just want to say that I feel that I haven’t matured to the level that I should, and that I still do make foolish mistakes at times…it’s like going a distance but not having reached the destination that I should by now, that then would allow me to go to the next destination…unto destiny…
Sunday, God used my pastor to begin surgery on me. As God touched the wounds and the muck in me and went deeper, I just cried. I tried to talk to my pastor, but I couldn’t get very far because I just started crying. I came home and I felt like crying all the time. I felt Gods “gloryform” all over me since the beginning…He had started operating on me…
The pain seems unbearable at times, but the results are astounding and stunning…I now understand things a little better. This is surgery that I must submitt myself to, and it didn’t really begin until I asked Him to burn things out of me. At times I have kept a distance because of the pain, and I’ve noticed that he doesn’t operate in those times, He just waits for me to come to Him. When I go to Him, He then resumes. In comparison with His glory, the pain becomes easier to bear…This all does take take discipline! And He is always there to help!
On Tuesday, I was hit so hard on the inside, that I thought that someone was trying to kill me. I asked God that He let me live, and that He not allow the enemy to kill me. It hit in a way that I didn’t know whether it was God or not…I now see how deep this really goes…
Just to finish off, I want to say something that I realized last night, through something that my pastor said in church:
It took Adam a moment to fall, and it took God three days and three nights to pay for it, in order to put it right again…makes one think (and cry sometimes!). This shows me three things. The depth and height (or the dimension) of Gods creation, the price of Gods creation, and Gods love for His creation…
I beleive that if we just hang on to Him, He will see us through, even through the toughest, hardest and deepest things in us, that must change, that must either leave or get better, afterall…
Isn’t that what we are here for?
For that and more, I beleive…
God Bless!
By the way, I love to see how things are falling in place…
Awesome!
God Bless You John Paul!
Dear John Paul,
Now that’s some expresso!! Wow I love learning all this! To re-iterate and add to.. cool- love it .. saves time but still gets the message to us.. thanx! I would like to clarify that I noticed from earliest blogs another Lisa.. sorry didn’t realize until recently.. She said she was on the oprah eckhart live internet series thing… I understand the want & seek to all knowledge spiritual.. I am not afraid. , but I do go forth with the solid foundation of the Lord always.. I did try to go online to see what it was all about but did not get through..I’m assuming that God didn’t want me there.. I’m totally good with that..thank you Lord.! John Paul I do also understand the Lord has specific times for us to do His Will.. Taking our issues to God is the best step forward but you helping us get there-THANX!!!
God Bless!!! Love Always!!! Lisa G.
I am thankful that the Lord has uniquely equipped you and that you are willing. I am also thankful that as you observe our comments and questions, although you cannot comment on each, I believe that you observe them in a way that affects change. I am amazed and inspired by the scientific way we were knit together and the depths of Jesus’ words when we understand that He knows it all. My DNA is being changed as I understand the power of the blood. I believe that what is going on in my brain is an adjustment. I believe that I have inherited a chemical imbalance. I also believe that my addications have had to do much with self correcting that imbalance. I don’t what anything unholy or any idol in my life. I only want Jesus’ way. I also have been thinking that there is something very significant about Jesus’ command to not fear. If faith has substance I wonder if fear does as well. I just read in Job how the very thing that he dreaded is what happened to him. Also, he went about trying to prevent something “bad” from happening by offering up sacrifices on his children’s behalf in case they might have offended God. He in essence was afraid that they might suffer the consequences of a God who dealt exactly the way that his friends (and his own mind) suggested. I believe that I am not unlike Job in working to do everything right so that nothing bad will happen to me. I then am more motivated by my fear of what might be than my love and belief that God will protect me and loves me so much. I have made the devil huge and God little. I am challenged at a deeper level to take every thought captive and make it obedient because of the creative power that those made in his image actually posess.
I used to be very concerned about not being able to confess sins I had forgotten or worried about the ones I was unaware of. I let it go realizing there was nothing I could do about it anyway. However, last night I felt like God showed me something about this. I felt like He covered me and closed doors to the enemy from a few sins I don’t know about or remember. I felt like He did this for areas He wanted to soon reveal to me and get cleared up. In the meantime, it is like He became the one door the enemy would have to get through to get to me. Hence, He became my covering.
“As Sam Biggar said, sin “has a devastating effect on his children,” and I (JPJ) might add on His creation. “Further, God hates sin because He loves us so much.”” (JPJ Coffee Talk Blog)
“Love covers a multitude of sins” (1 Peter 4:8; James 5:20). By covering, I don’t think He is “covering up” or looking the other way. He is protecting me from the effects and consequences in order to DEAL with the issue. When I went in search of more info on this topic I found this quote: “In order to cover something, a definite action must be taken with respect to the thing covered.” (http://www.inthebeloved.org/lovecovers.htm) I think the action is to cover the issue and deal with it in private - transformation. This is mercy, this is grace.
“However, it will take a true spiritual disciplined effort to do this - thus one of the benefits of practicing the disciplines of Spirit.” (JPJ Coffee Talk Blog)
…what is/are “disciplines of Spirit?”
Transformation comes by resting in the Heart of the Father our focus is on Him the HOLY SPIRIT our lives our not our own we have been bought with a price what are you doing to day Dad what would you like me to be comfort those with the comfort HE has given you by being in the heart boldly enter in the heavens are open receive the joy the love the power for the day HIS mercy is fresh every day the goodnes of the Lord brings change to the DNA level that is why we break the generational curse by the Blood when the Holy Spirit reveals a past family sin so the present is free to receive though clean vails of perception and stay in the Spirit I think it is really cool how the Spirit is moving though Todd Bently with the BAM BAM BAM John Paul speaks explosive words of freedom for the captives as well same Spirit it is awesome how the Fathers is cleaning up HIS bride at this hour SHALOM
Touching bases on the DNA questions is pretty interesting. I am always fascintaed with the search that so many are in for the DNA codes or what not. I do beleive sin is affecting the Dna level, and that is whre genetically the Dna holds the curses like you were saying.
I am not a scientist and as much as I would love to understand all of that stuff, it just is difficult when I read articles on that sort of thing. But one thing I read was that DNA is ever changing so that makes it difficult to decode. A friend of mine who is a counselor was telling me there is something having to do with the cells actually remembering, and that every cell has memory in it. This memory is not just of all things we experienced but what geneticaly what we inhereted from our family line. I beleive that is also the relation to the dna of ’sin’ and how importance of generational cleansing needs to happen because the memory of sins in the past triggered I would think could trigger someone into ’sin’ today.
If we think in these terms, then salvation becomes that much more revolutionary against darkness because being ‘born again’ is a literal transfusion of heavens DNA, and so the redemption that takes place is re-formating our entire system.
I read a book a few years ago that was mostly over my head, but it was about DNA and trying to validate homosexual behavoir with DNa resulting that says that they would have been more prone to that living lifestyle just through Dna Structures in their body. Most of the book was hard to understand but I remember thinking that the book was really good because it was basically saying in scientific terms proof for generational sins and the sort, though the scientist writing the book probably would not have liked people to get conclusions from the book in that respect.
I have also heard that there are findings now on The Spirit SIde of DNA which fascinates me to no end. WHat people had to live by faith beleiving years and decades ago is now being factualized by science. This leads me to wonder if the more they decode DNA if it will make faith much harder and thus ‘when Christ returns will he find faith in the earth’ if this statement in the scriptures is true. Maybe because of all the scientific findings that are continually coming, so much will be proven that the level of faith in the earth will have to rise beyond what any generation has ever seen, because faith in and of itself is beleiving something that is not seen, so if we see so much in science, than there is that much more we are seeing naturally.
anyways, its just an amazing corridor to walk down..
I thought sin was transmitted to the 3 and 4th generation of THOSE WHO HATE GOD……. my brother-in-law once pointed out a passage of Scripture in Ezekiel 18 about the fathers eat sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge. The Lord says you will no longer quote this proverb for every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son. The soul who sins is the one who will die. The gist of the rest of the chapter is about each one is responsible for himself and the children do not have to pay for the parents sins. Vs. 27: ” But if a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save his life. Because he considers all the offenses he has committed and turns away from them, he will surely live; he will not die.” And the reverse is true also. The righteous man who turns from his righteousness and commits sin……None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Now there is a sobering thought !!!
let me add to my prior comments of specific times of His Will …I meant His Will always and His timing to specific times of goings on in our life .. whether it be what we want or not.. when he moves the cloud pillar…it’s time to go!!!
make sure to pray, read the word , don’t just do the emotional upset jump though… pray pray pray get confirmation from the word… John Paul ..how about some insight to this some time…am I still on the straight path or am I deviating? Oh ..can’t wait for the DNA update!!!
Blessings forever!!! Lisa G
I am someone who sincerely does not feel ignored.
The self-centered, prideful part of my being (”My thoughts are important”) could probably write every day, try to hog this whole blog and ask for endless attention.
If you don’t respond to a post, I try to consider that perhaps there was too much of “me” in what I wrote, or that maybe something more on point was contributed by someone else.
Then it’s back to the drawing board, or to “keep on keeping on…” (e.g. Eugene Peterson: A Long Obedience in the Same Direction)
How much do I visit this blog to be a listener as well as a contributor?
Your book on Overcoming Rejection actually helps me to not take delivery on condemnation (”JPJ must have thought my contribution was exceptionally lame, or he would have given it some attention”).
Am I daily into God’s Word to the point that I would be able to “remain standing” if everything in my life was taken away from me?
When I have come to the end of myself, and there is nothing left, including this blog, Jesus IS.
JP:
I accept your answer about ignored, not only for me but for all who know this fact. Please allow me to remind all of the writers and readers of this blog, Jesus changed directions many times to go with someone who asked him! As he walked with the one who asked him to heal his daughter, Jesus had to pause to call out that woman with great faith. The attack then came on the man,
“Just believe”
Robert (without a church or fellow Christian)
THERE IS FAITH
To those of you who feel ignored, I hope that I can encourage you with the following:
I used to feel ignored in general, and it hurt. I grew up in a large family with parents who were sometimes almost overwhelmed with their concerns. Often it was just everyday life itself that left me feeling unheard and unimportant.
By the time I really turned to God to meet my needs and heal the old wounds, enough damage had been done that the pain could often be easily triggered.
Then there were my own reactions that missed the mark of what “my Dad in heaven” wanted for me in my life.
The wounded part of my being (”Are my thoughts important? Do I matter?”) could still probably write every day, trying to hog this whole blog and seeking endless amounts of attention.
But that wound has also been largely healed.
Reading JPJ’s book on Breaking Free of Rejection actually helps me to not take delivery on rejection (”Oh, he must have thought my contribution was exceptionally lame, or he would have given it some attention”).
If JPJ doesn’t respond to a post, I try to consider that perhaps there was too much of “me” in what I wrote, or that maybe something more on point was contributed by someone else… or maybe there simply wasn’t enough space or (more importantly, because this isn’t “all about me”), God wants to highlight something else.
How much do I visit this blog to be a listener as well as a contributor?
Am I daily into God’s Word to the point that I would be able to “remain standing” if everything in my life was taken away from me?
I am learning to “keep on keeping on…” (e.g. Eugene Peterson: A Long Obedience in the Same Direction: I confess that I’m still back at the beginning of the Book of Samuel!)
When no one is around, and I feel lonely and longing to be heard, Jesus IS. I know that, in quiet times with Him, I can receive the attention for which I am longing.
Moreover, thoughts come to me in those times: promptings, ideas, reminders (someone I need to pray for, forgive, et cetera, or something that needs to be done) that I wouldn’t otherwise hear…
Do you remember a time when Creative Ideas came to you from Him, simply because you had set aside the time to listen?
I have to remind myself that Jesus Himself does not want to be ignored by ME.
What amazes me is when I find myself letting go of the longing for attention and affirmation from others, as my body, soul and spirit drinks from The River of Life.
John Paul Jackson wrote:
The progress nature of Salvation, not reconciliation to the Father, is the focus of Romans 5:10, we shall be saved by His [Jesus} life. Could it be that the curse of sin going to the third and fourth generation and in some cases down to ten generations is from sin being transmitted to the cellular/DNA levels? I believe there is a strong chance the answer might well be “yes.”
My Response:
The Holy Spirit, once people receive Jesus into their hearts can cancel the sin DNA regarding the particular sin nature in question. The Lord through the Holy Spirit can change and alter our spiritual DNA to the DNA of God and cancel the genetic code of a particular sin that seems to be handed down throughout the generations once there is repentance. I hope this helps….
Blessings!
Shirley C.
2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
A moment in His presence can do more for our growth than years spent elsewhere.
Psa 84.10a For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand.
Holy Spirit overshadowed (to invest with preternatural influence) the mother of Jesus.
Preternatural, from Latin praeter naturam, beyond nature
She had Holy Life growing within her.
Holy Spirit can overshadow us and create or invest extra ordinary (beyond nature) life.
I believe this life is infused within us. Is our DNA being changed? I don’t know. Symbolically this life moving and kicking shows us that it is alive and growing. We will give birth to this new life, but we will be the child.
A husband and wife will never get pregnant holding hands. The must come together in intimacy in order for new life to be created. Let us go into the secret place and become one with the Lord.
Here is my concern with scientific DNA manipulation.
Mankind seems to want to be able to eat from the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil and from the Tree of Life too. They want to live forever and do whatever is right in their own eyes.
I don’t think God will allow this.
Gen 3.22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Science may be able to discover how to remove natural corruption in natural DNA. But I don’t believe they could remove spiritual corruption in spiritual DNA. I believe God has made only one way to do this. His way.
God bless you all,
David
“Could it be that the curse of sin going to the third and fourth generation and in some cases down to ten generations is from sin being transmitted to the cellular/DNA levels? I believe there is a strong chance the answer might well be yes”.
Wow! I find that we are living in exciting times when much that has been hidden for centuries God is now opening up for us to see.
Thanks John Paul for your time on this blog although you cannot answer us all, what you share, is well appreciated!
Dear John Paul:
Since before coming to this blog, I had been wrestling with an experience that I had way back in March 22nd, 2002. But because
the experience was so strange to me I kept the dream vision to myself for the most part. The ones that i confided in were only 2 people that I trusted. They both had advised me to share it with you and because, I never had the money to attend any of your events all except for one, I never had enough nerve to approach you because I blended in with the walls so to speak, especially after reading the “Unmasking The Spirit of Jezebel”, I didn’t want to play into that hype and so I kept it to myself.
I think that I may have tried to mail it to you. However, if you didn’t know who it was that sent it to you, you may have discarded it altogether. Now that I have your attention, this event points to what I believe is happening now in Lakeland Florida, approximately 6 years later. I need further interpretation and recommendation regarding this dream vision because part of it is a confirmation to even what Bob Jones was saying concerning the specifi areas of the revival. In the dream vision, I referred to them as key locations. I feel so small because who am I to have this experience and furthermore what do I do with this now that things are beginning to happen? Here is the vision(if you don’t feel the need to publish this because on not related to the subject line on this blog, I understand perfectly because it is guidance that I am looking for more than anything else. Here it is:
PROPHETIC DREAM FOR AMERICA –
March 22nd, 2002
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After a night of intense worship, the Lord brought me into the third heavens and showed me the glory that has been appointed for such a time as this for America which will affect the entire world in this Last
Hour of His Great Love and Mercy throughout time and Eternity. He is about ready to visit America sovereignty and in this One Great Act Of Love will transform many in the twinkling of an eyelash and this Great Move Of His Love will rickashe throughout the world. And also whomever approaches the soil of America will be transformed instantaneously. I saw people coming into this transformed atmosphere traveling from state to state, in cars, trains, buses, planes and from other lands who came to America this very hour to just to breathe the very atmosphere that had been transforming individuals in astronomical proportions and no matter how they came when they arrived to their appointed destination, and as they stepped outside of whatever they were traveling in and touched the soil of America and even breathed the transformed atmosphere they were instantly healed, transformed and set freed just like that because of the power of His Love.
THE HEAVENLY DREAM VISION UNFOLDING when I fell into a deep sleep on my prayer couch 3 days of worship:
Thursday Evening March 22nd, 2002
In the dream I was driving in a vehicle on the highways and by-ways in key cities and towns of America in one moment walking and flying over streets, over rivers and bridges and sidewalks in another moment. The scenes kept switching rather abruptly. Things were happening at a frequent pace. The scene also switched to countryside locations. It seemed more likely that it was the mountain ranges, meadows and hillsides of America. Suddenly, I started seeing strange fires begin to ignite out of the clear blue in key locations. In remote areas within our cities and towns in Amercia. I started to fear and a voice whom I discerned as the voice of the Lord filled my heart with peace and He Said do not fear, this is my doing shortly after he consoled Me by His spirit my attention was directed to a small group Of people that were near the base of these Fires. They did not seem to be alarmed by the fires, it seemed that they were tending to them…They Were not fireman. They were nameless and faceless watchman watching the fires. They were placed at each key location wherever this fire touched down. I was wondering where the fire department was and why weren’t they putting out this fire and then as I was asking myself the question regarding the origin of this mysterious fire, the same voice from Heaven within my spirit man told me again that this fire is not man’s doing but that it is God’s doing and then the voice from heaven instructed me to look up. This was during the day time. It was a bit overcast and the sun was beginning to shine through the clouds. It felt like noontime.
As I looked up my eyes beheld the
strangest thing. I saw what I can only described in
part. I saw part of a Glorious Rainbow. It wasn’t
just any rainbow, It was a linear rainbow of fire. The
colors of the rainbow was made up of different hues
of orange, I have never in my life seen different
colors of orange I thought that there was only light
and dark orange but there are several colors of
orange. This portion of the glory rainbow was
blazing in increasing intensity in a linear fashion
hurling down to the earth and as it came down it
settled and touched down in key locations in cities
towns, communities, and the country sides of
America. Wherever this fire rainbow of the glory
of God touched down, nameless’faceless people came out of the base of this fire rainbow to guard wherever it touched down. Many people were wondering what was happening because the impact was so “Great”. It caused the earth to shake in diverse places.
Wherever this fire rainbow of glory had touched
down there were many healings, and miracles took
place as well as signs and wonders. Then the
vision intensified even more…As I continued
walking down the street over bridges and by the
country side, the Lord focused my attention on a
man who was wearing plain clothes. He had on a
red t-shirt and faded blue jeans and his hair was long, it parted in the middle and tied back in a pony tail.
The color of the mans hair was a grayish brashy blond. This man was probably in between 30 and 40 years of age There was a peculiar thing going on with this Man. He appeared to have the eyes of a blind man but yet He could see and his eyes were very mysterious they penetrating eyes that appeared to be able to see inward like he was looking inside of people instead of
outside. This man was more concerned with being able to see in the spirit instead of being able to see in the world again the time of day that I was witnessing all of this in the dream vision was noontime.
This man that appeared to look like he was blind
made a very unusual request, he asked someone
on the left side of him to lend him a pair of
binoculars so that he can see into the heavens. Then I thought this is strange because this man appears to be blind to my natural eyes but he is seeing more than what I can see. I want to
see what he is seeing. As this man was looking into the Heavens through his binoculars he was in awe and in ecstasy as to what he saw that it caused me to wonder what on earth the blind man
saw through those binoculars. I was curious because I was wondering why what I perceived to be a blind man was able to see things that were not apparent to the naked eye to other people. The question became, why was he seeing things I wasn’t
seeing. And then I realized that as this blind man was seeing into the heavenlies, he was being touched and transformed in His inner most being by the hand of God in a most powerful way.
This man had been so awe struck with what he saw that all I heard him proclaim” I once was blind and now I can see into the heavenlies because of the intensity of God’s Glorious Love”.
After witnessing this event, I got a little more curious and I got a little bold in my approach, I asked him what Is he seeing and can I take a look into those heavenly binoculars and then suddenly, something from the binoculars took hold of me and sucked me into the binoculars, I was caught up into the spirit through the heavenly binoculars and takened into the heavenlies. It looked like out of space, I definitely knew that I was not in this world and to much of my amazement I saw the awesome hand of God at work in this hour. I saw and felt the intensity of God’s Love for mankind in this Last Hour. This light and surge of glory was hot and this electrified my whole entire being, I thought I was going to die as the rainbow was coming closer to me because of its intensity. As the linear rainbow was getting closer to me,I saw what looked at first to be a fireball meteor but this was not typical. It started to take the shape of a linear rainbow but it had fire blazing on every side (and the colors were as described earlier when I was on the earth in my witnessing this Fire touching down upon the earth).
The colors of this linear rainbow were many colors of orange….more than seven increasing in intensity coming towards the earth full of the fullness of His Love I saw the whole Fire Rainbow of Glory.
When this hit the earth atmosphere, it ricashayed into various areas of the United States of America causing Mass Healings and Massive conversions. Everyone was affected with the Fire Of His Love. This changed the atmosphere of America forever. The Body of Christ in America especially is about ready to come into the fullness of their destiny as one nation under God and the devil and the works of Satan are going to be defeated in America forever !
Since then, I had other dream/visions God encounters. If I were to print them here it would be too much. I am seriously thinking about writing a book. What do you think?
Blessing!
Shirley C.
Cool entry terihamel! I liked it! I like to hear about people’s different experiences.
Comment about some feeling ignored…Cyber space is much easier because it’s kinda void of real relationships. I think that was great advice to seek out being connected with a church family.
DNA and Generational sins….I’ve been thinking a lot about this. I come from a Freemason background and so the generational sins is an overwhelming topic and for me I don’t even know where to start. I don’t know how involved my Grandfather had been or how involved his father had been. I know I’ve repented of any involvement I had with Brownie’s and Girl guides. Somehow dancing around in a circle giving credence to ferries never sat well with me…anyways…and so I guess with myself that’s a start. The question I have is how to address this for me personaly. All I know is that the journey towards freedom, healing, and deliverance has been a very long and difficult journey that has at times been exhaustive! But at the same time when I press through it’s totaly rewarding. DNA, generational sins, is one such area I am praying not to be ignorant of but the truth is, right now I am. I mean, I know of generational sins and how it affects one generation after another even down to the 10th generation. I just don’t know where to start when addressing such an issue.
When speaking on dna,God created it and I believe every thought we have On Jesus Christ and God changes us internally and spiritually .The Holy spirit is strengthened when glory is given to our awesome gracious father.I was told that if words are spoken over water and instant freezing occurs the results can be seen on a molecular level,negative creates choas and words of love and God show up as organized and pleasant to the eye .Therefore I believe since Gods hand is on all the cells and the dna makes up those,all will be reorganized by his grace in faith.We have to grow in our complete surrender anything less leaves some areas incomplete and at the same time learning by his word ,the astounding nonrestricted power of the kingdom.
I have been enjoying your blogs. I believe that generational sin is from the cellular/DNA levels. The propensity to be drawn to sin or sin nature is because of generational DNA. We have to cleanse and heal through Jesus and His blood to this level to change the DNA. God wants us to cleanse our blood lines to take on His DNA so that our children and future generations can have generational blessings and be drawn more to the supernatural. Interested to hear where you are going with this.
Did I miss something in one of my science classes? Jesus, born of a woman, is sinless. Why was He born of a woman? Was she merely a womb vessel growing an “invitro-fertilized” Jesus, or did she provide genetic material that influenced Jesus’ makeup somehow? And if He was a “womb plant”, did her DNA affect Him at all on the cellular level during gestation? I ask these questions because one of my high school Bible teachers, after lecturing on the virgin birth, proposed the theory that male chromosomes transmit sin–an idea that I have mulled over and found fascinating.
I love spiritual/scientific discussions. Especially when a scientist concludes in his discoveries that God really exists, that the only way to explain what he discovered is if there were God…
Some have come to Jesus this way, in fact, there is a russian mathematician that said that after submitting his mathematical discoveries to spiritual leaders…that the only One that stood the test was Jesus Christ!
I don’t know what the math was about but it was some advanced stuff…He phoned up a christian scientist friend of his in the US because he wanted to know more about Jesus. He got saved in the process…
Nice, hey…
God Bless!
If, according to Titus 3:5 (5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit)we have truly been regenerated and/or reborn, wouldn’t we have a new DNA? The DNA of God who is love. Or is regeneration a process, rather than an event, and being a process there is always the possibility for a mutant strain to develop thus keeping us connected or re-connecting us to old sin patterns and generational “stuff?”Wouldn’t the DNA of God take precedence over the old nature DNA? “Greater is He that is in me…”The more we live in His presence, the less attractive sin would become to us until even the temptation becomes a repulsion. I know the chains of generational curses need to be broken - been there and doing that - but it rarely makes sense to me in light of the fact that we are “a new creation in Christ.” And how does generational blessing tie into this? As always, more questions than answers…
Wow Shirley that’s a pretty amazing dream vision! I have alot of dreams/visions but can usually figure them out. Mine are pretty simplistic. I have been to the Throne room and danced cried hugged smiled and lay at the feet of Our Heavenly Father and Jesus!!!I love that God gave me My dancing spirit for the joy of the Lord!!!!
Thank You God so much for the open availability to you!!!
It was so cool to also actually see in the spirit realm while wide awake!! It happened to me first at the North Sutton New Hampshire meetings I went to!!! It was SOOO AWESOME!!! It never
happened to me before I went to those meetings!!! That is Alot of Spiritual Goodness Going On!!! To be Prophetically spoken to also from the leaders there was the best!! Thank you Lord for this ministry!!!& Wonderful John Paul Jackson!!!
Glory to God and All the Heavenlies!!! Glory Glory Glory!!!!
Interesting post, John Paul. I do believe we have certain tendencies which are inherited. For example, some are more prone to become alcoholics. Some are more prone to certain emotional disorders. And yes, those things go hand in hand with our sin nature. But I believe that, as we walk closer and closer with God, the discrepancies in our character seem to diminish. After all, the closer we are to Him, the more we look like Him!
I believe, somehow, that when we are “born again”, we also inherit the character of God! We become like Him, like a child is like his parent. So, we have this constant battle going on - which pattern will we follow? The more we know Him and imitate Him, the more we become like Him - just like a child imitating His parents.
Thought provoking post. Keep it up!
Renae
http://www.renaebrumbaugh.com
Hey terrihamel - Amen!!! I agree with and liked what you wrote, thought you were brave to share your heart!
Blessings
John Paul,
I am grateful you have brought up the sin - DNA connection. I hope you discuss it further. I am in full agreement with you.
Marilyn
I just thought of an experience I had about l0 years ago where, on “outward appearance” my church family thought my problem was the result of a generational curse. But the Lord labelled it “the furnace of affliction” (testing place). If there was truly a curse, He turned it into a blessing or it was “burn’t up in the furnace”. The 3 Hebrews boys, when thrown into the furnace were bound up when they went in and free when they came out. Hummmmmmmm, interesting !!!
Sin.
I believe that what the Lord has showed me is that every piece of every moment, when any part of my spirit, soul or body is not in full agreement with who he is…any time I am not, in the fulness of who I am, with my breath and my thoughts and my actions, altogether loving him, I am missing the mark.
There is nothing anyone could ever perpetrate against me that is greater than my sin against him when I am not loving him with all my heart, mind and strength. Because of who he is.
I am the man who has been forgiven by the King a great sum. We all are. Perhaps to the degree we realize it, we can be transformed by it.
Dear John Paul,
I just want to thank you for coming and ministering to us at VCC this past weekend. I believe you not only blessed us powerfully through your teaching and prophetic ministry, but also imparted a released into greater expectation for encounter with the living God. What struck me above everything else was the way you know God. You imparted more than just your wise words–you imparted who you are. I kept thinking, “I want to know God like this man does.” The light and love of Jesus literally shines in your eyes like few people I have ever met. I am freshly inspired to follow Moses’ example of pursuing the knowledge of God above all else, and live with “above the line thinking!” I believe that in days to come, we will look back on this past weekend as a pivotal moment in the history of our church.
Blessings upon blessings to you,
Alicia Jackson (wife of the other John Paul Jackson)
John Paul,
Wanted to thank you for all you did this past weekend to and for the VCC community. We really needed that. I appreciate you interpreting that dream that I have been hanging on to for some time. I was very encouraged and enlightened. What you do and what you have done with what God has given you is a real inspiration to so many. Be blessed and Fight the Good fight!
Jon Phillips
I understand that trauma is recorded at the cellular level (Dr. Bryan Post, Trauma Institute)in children and adults who experience serious trauma. The whole body reacts to events similar to the original trauma. Makes sense that we have the DNA/cellular level impact sense one really can’t separate the mind/body connection. Spirituality and the physical have one expression in this realm-the human body. Generational sin, DNA sin, etc. all part of the sin nature. Can it be overcome? Sin that is. Yep. At the cross. The greatest miracle is not spiritual and physical healing…it is salvation. Neat part though is that we can experience healing of the whole man on this side of heaven.
Question: Are memories stored at the cellular level? Are they stored in our DNA? If they are, then do we have a cellular level memory of the garden? Is there stored in our DNA a knowing of how we once were? What it was like to walk with God in the garden? A memory of no sin?
Just wondering…
Marilyn
HELLO John Paul This may seem like a strange place to start a subject of DNA. But I have often wondered in Gen3:1-2 why Eve dident think it strange that a animal talked. And how did Adam know to lie when he was confronted with his sin. Your friend on DNA may have the answer could it be that when they sined that their DNA changed. In Isa11:6-7 it speeks of the lion and the lamb. they would classed as enemies. Was their DNA changed because the lion has swet glands that arent used. Also in Ps 51-5 David said he was conseved out of sin. In Rom 7-14-25 Paul said he know why he did what he did. HUGS to you John Paul